BB 54 Review: Tryin' to get the feeling...

I'm writing this while still wondering if I'm going to keep the watch. I'm all over the place with this thing. First...story time:

I should start by saying I'm pretty conflicted about Tudor as a brand. The marketing is awful—second only to Rolex (no surprise) as the worst of the hyper-earnest, "professional" cosplay watch brands. I also cringe every time I see David Beckham and the "#BornToDare" tagline. Is there anything less daring in the watch industry than reissuing vintage tool-watches from the Rolex archive using movement technology, materials, and designs that have been around for decades? There's also the Rolex association, which I have a hard time getting past. It's not the "poor-man's Rolex" trope (a phrase I find hugely insensitive) but more the idea that Rolex is a brand I have loads of problems and negative associations with ...but by buying a Tudor, I'm ultimately still giving Rolex my money and directly supporting everything that bothers me about them. It's a brilliant business plan on their part—building Tudor as a sub-brand to hoover up all the customers tiring of AD games, skyrocketing prices, and increasingly garish designs as Rolex itself pushes exclusively into the luxury fashion space—but I feel a bit like a hypocrite and a chump for buying into it.

However, part of being turned off by brand marketing is a determination to rise above it and appreciate a product on its own terms. I can't get riled up about brand snobbery when people say "I'd never pay that much for a [insert name of attainable brand here]" if I'm doing the same thing in the opposite direction, right? I was really intrigued by the size and understated design of the 54 and so I put pride aside and tried it on at my local AD, determined to check my cynicism at the door and see what all the online love was about.

And...yep, the 54 rose above all the negative associations I'd built up around the brand, its marketing, its parent company, and the unending hype in the enthusiast community. It was one of those rare experiences where a watch instantly felt like it was custom-tailored for my wrist. Everything about it—the weight, the size, even the design—felt comfortable. I never questioned "is this too ___?" or wished it was anything more than what it was. It just felt...right. I took a day to think about it, which included deciding what watch I'd sell to make room for it, checking 2nd-hand prices to see how much a hit I'd take if I changed my mind in a few weeks, and to consult with a watchmaker friend of mine who assured me the new movements are rock solid and I shouldn't expect any serious issues. Everything checked out and I picked the watch up the next day.

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So, the review? This thing has been described and discussed in such painful and pointless detail that I won't get into the obvious stuff. Suffice it to say that, in almost every way, my first impression has stuck. As a watch, it's solidly built, nicely finished, incredibly accurate, and has an ageless design (not a surprise given the cheat-code of being a reissue of an already iconic watch). It fits my wrist perfectly and is in my exact length, height, and diameter sweet-spots. There are some great little details, like the slightly domed dial with its muted, not-quite-black sunburst effect, the copper tone of the printing and handset, and the old logo on the crown. And I love that it has a solid caseback. This thing is as serious as cosplay tool watches get. Everything feels precise and tight, with that quiet and confident sense of over-engineered quality that Mercedes Benz epitomized back in the day.

Bearing in mind that all discussions of "value" in the luxury game are relative, I think this is a solid deal compared to what you'd get from other Swiss retail brands around the same price (those qualifications intentionally included to avoid comparisons to Sinn, CW, and Seiko). The Longines Legend Diver 38 is probably the Black Bay 54's only solid competition in that space. Even the Oris Calibre 400 divers are more expensive for no discernible reason. Hold this next to IWC's cheapest watch—a Spitfire on a fabric strap—and try to explain why in the world the IWC costs $1000 more than the Tudor on a bracelet.

There's a cliché emerging around Tudor that they're offering what Rolex used to, which is literally true when it comes to the homage designs, but also figuratively true in terms of the watches being very high quality, understated tool-style luxury watches that are expensive enough to be aspirational but not so expensive as to be unattainable. That makes a lot of sense to me now. So does the idea of this being a perfect watch for someone who isn't an enthusiast or collector, but just wants a "really nice watch" to wear forever the way our grandparents did. The sizing and styling mean it'll never look dated by the whims of fashion and if my watchmaker-friend is right, it should last a very long time with minimal maintenance.

Still...I have issues. The movement has been super-accurate and dead quiet, without a hint of rotor spin, however when hand-winding, it hits a point (perhaps when it's fully wound?) that it starts making a loud clicking noise with each full rotation of the crown. Maybe that's normal for this movement—I haven't asked my AD yet—but I've never heard that from a watch before. I have a little hangup where the more I pay for something, the more these little glitches stand out for me, so I'm curious to get to the bottom of it.

Objectively, the bracelet is the biggest problem--and I'm not talking about the stupid rivets (yet). Despite all the hype and drool over the "t-fit" adjustable clasp, it has a pretty major flaw in that the amount of adjustment it offers doesn't relate to the size of the links themselves. Since no half-links are included, it's been impossible for me to get the fit right, rendering the adjustability moot. Take a link out and the bracelet is too tight at at the t-fit's most open setting, or add a link back in and it's loose even at the t-fit's tightest setting. I'm not alone in this—many owners have mentioned it online and it's common enough that two companies have now started selling half-links to correct the issue. The consensus seems to be that the aftermarket half-link solves the problem, but I don't accept the idea that I should have to buy a third-party accessory (that doesn't quite match) so a $4000 watch with a built-in micro-adjust system will fit properly. Folks complain about Grand Seiko only offering half-links instead of micro-adjustable clasps and this is the same problem in reverse.

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The clasp is also pretty bulky, especially compared to how slim the watch itself is, and often pulls the watch up or down the wrist. Also be prepared for the link closest to the t-fit adjustment to get scuffed from use.

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And, yes, the faux-rivets are a dumb, indefensible design choice that's completely at odds with the otherwise purposeful styling of the watch, but it hasn't really bothered me in the real world. If anything, they're a sort-of welcome quirk on a watch in desperate need of quirks.

And that's my last big point of conflict. As I said before, this could be the perfect purchase for someone who isn't an enthusiast and just wants one damn good watch that goes with everything, can take a beating, keeps great time, and won't look dated in 25 years. But (like everyone on WC, I assume) I'm not that person. I have other watches that I bought because they were unique in some way that connected with me on an emotional level, almost always from a design or historical perspective. Watches that I want to stare at and talk about. I won't say "watches with a soul" because that's a romantic projection, but I will say "watches that connect with MY soul." And the Black Bay 54 is great in ways my brain appreciates, but my soul hasn't connected with yet.

Speaking rationally, the 54 could well be the Platonic ideal of a premium watch. Stupid rivets aside, there's not a thing here that feels off or out of place. Not a bit of wabi-sabi or evidence of any human inspiration or interference. I've said this about many modern Tudors and it applies here: The watch feels like it was generated by AI programmed to scrape watch-enthusiast comment threads, and the result is exactly what we say we want: a high-quality, attainable vintage no-date Rolex diver in a mid-sized case with an in-house[ish] COSC movement. What's missing is anything that elevates it to art or inspires emotion. Beauty is about imperfections, tensions, and balance. It's about the little sparks of humanity and invention, and the Black Bay 54 has none of that. There are no chances taken with color, form, or technology. If Tudors are “#borntodare” its parents must be hugely disappointed. It is a completely rational watch at a time when there's nothing rational about buying a mechanical dive watch, let alone one at this price.

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And that's what I'm wrestling with. Objectively, it may be the best all-around watch I own, but it's also the least interesting to me. When I get dressed, I keep reaching for a watch that fits my mood, my outfit, or my plans for the day and this one always seems to lose out to the vintage thing or the fun thing or the fancy thing or the rugged thing, all of which have something about them that I find unique and compelling. Two weeks in, the Tudor feels like the experience you get from a big-ticket classic-rock concert where a group of pros with varying ties to the original band faithfully play the hits everyone showed up to hear with no mistakes, no surprises, no risks, and, while enjoyable and often worth the price of the ticket, no chance of anyone being moved enough to say it’s the best concert they’ve ever seen. The result is an oldies show presented with meticulous technical perfection and no room for emotional resonance. The Eagles could sell Black Bays at their merch table.

It's a testament to how much my left-brain is blown away by the 54 that I'm sticking with it for a while longer in hopes that my right-brain finds a little poetry in some details I'm missing or that I'll find a strap that livens things up somewhat. At the moment, however, I'm feeling like I'm too passionate about watches to love a watch this dispassionately perfect. Stay tuned. I hope my feelings change and that any of this makes sense to someone other than me.

BB 54 Review: Tryin' to get the feeling...

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  • Perfectly sized and proportioned (for my wrist and tastes)
  • Built like a bunker
  • Beautifully finished
  • Refined styling
  • Closed caseback
  • Definitely built by robots. Possibly designed by them, too
  • Requires aftermarket half-links to get the bracelet to fit
  • T-fit clasp is thick, heavy, scuffs the first link, and has too little travel to compensate for the lack of half-links
  • Still giving your money to Rolex for a not-Rolex reissue of a Rolex
  • Rewarding Tudor's goofy marketing
  • Utterly devoid of creativity in design, materials, or technology
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That is an outstanding review and reflects so many of the thoughts I have about watches generally and the Tudor brand specifically. So here's the thing. There's something about it that at times makes you feel its beauty. It's the beauty of perfection. Granted it's kind of a boring perfection like a beautiful woman who doesn't have much of a personality. But sometimes you just want to look at a beautiful woman and sometimes you want to look at a beautiful perfect watch. You've only had it for two weeks. I have watches that I may not wear for a month or two but then the urge strikes and I have to have that watch on. None of the others that I have will do. I think you should give it more time, because as you say in 25 years it may be the one watch in your collection that your children or grandchildren value.

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Excellent review!

I found myself nodding along with this as I read. Your thoughts echo mine exactly.

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"Still giving your money to Rolex for a not-Rolex reissue of a Rolex" is exactly the kind of conceptual overthinking that keeps me up at night. Hehe.

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Pablito

"Still giving your money to Rolex for a not-Rolex reissue of a Rolex" is exactly the kind of conceptual overthinking that keeps me up at night. Hehe.

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Welcome to my world ;)

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hackmartian

Welcome to my world ;)

At least, here on WC, we have a safe place for it. 😉

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Ktmdog24

That is an outstanding review and reflects so many of the thoughts I have about watches generally and the Tudor brand specifically. So here's the thing. There's something about it that at times makes you feel its beauty. It's the beauty of perfection. Granted it's kind of a boring perfection like a beautiful woman who doesn't have much of a personality. But sometimes you just want to look at a beautiful woman and sometimes you want to look at a beautiful perfect watch. You've only had it for two weeks. I have watches that I may not wear for a month or two but then the urge strikes and I have to have that watch on. None of the others that I have will do. I think you should give it more time, because as you say in 25 years it may be the one watch in your collection that your children or grandchildren value.

I agree with most everything you said except that this will be the one watch I have that my children (child, specifically) or grandchildren will value. That may end up being true, but I definitely have others that I imagine will have more value in 25 years—vintage pieces that are more unique and have more historical value, watches that have sentimental value as gifts from my wife, or, if I could choose the one I’d want him to have right now, the Seiko SLA that’s been on my wrist for most of our family adventures (including the trip to Japan that he holds as the best time of his life up til now) and the one I’d guess he most associates with me. I’m not ruling out the Tudor’s potential to be an heirloom, but it’s got some stiff competition ;)

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Thanks for this review!

> those qualifications intentionally included to avoid comparisons to ... CW

Now I'm hoping you'll write one about CW. Which ones pull on your heartstrings the most?

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ChuffedBrah

Thanks for this review!

> those qualifications intentionally included to avoid comparisons to ... CW

Now I'm hoping you'll write one about CW. Which ones pull on your heartstrings the most?

I’ve been impressed with several of them, but the most interesting to me is the Colchester. Having tried it out in person, it’s wonderful. It’s a truly original design, the color palette is amazing, and it’s insanely comfortable. If it had the new logo on the dial and they removed the silly medallion from the caseback, I’d buy it right now.

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hackmartian

I’ve been impressed with several of them, but the most interesting to me is the Colchester. Having tried it out in person, it’s wonderful. It’s a truly original design, the color palette is amazing, and it’s insanely comfortable. If it had the new logo on the dial and they removed the silly medallion from the caseback, I’d buy it right now.

This has me intrigued. The popout crown shows that Chris Ward is always pushing its engineering to make its watches just a little better, and the color theming is subtle but fun. I agree that a logo refresh would improve it.

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My answer to this is a BB58 blue on an MN strap. The MN strap gives it that bit of eccentricity and also a better more comfortable fit. The blue also is slightly more daring than black (ha but only slightly.)

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Have to commend you on a great review. So much better than the honeymoon period confirmation bias spec sheet regurgitation 4.9/5.0 that so many of us write. The half-link issue can be a real pain for those that fall in the no-man’s land between adjustment range.

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Interesting take and can’t wait to see how this plays out over time.

I’ve tried on this watch sooo many times and can’t seem to actually get to the buying point. I think I’m afraid I will be bored by it or possibly that it will be so perfect that I won’t want to wear anything else. Talk about neurotic watch overthinking!

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I've tried it at AD and it seemed cool but it was a bit too small for me being dive watch. However I'm in love with this mod and would rock it like this:

Tudor Black Bay 54 Modded https://www.watchcrunch.com/RabbitWatchShop/posts/tudor-black-bay-54-modded-262207

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Excellent review! I don’t dislike Rolex and I try to avoid adds - but I feel your point anyway.

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I don’t agree with almost every letter you wrote and somehow find your review one of the best I’ve ever read. 🍻

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First congrats on review, another one not with 4.5+/5.0. As it relates to your dilemma some of my observations:

  • you focus too much on marketing. Yes the marketing from Tudor is only second to Breguet ( in negative of course ) but if I like the watch I don't care about that. Honestly not even looking at campaigns they make unless somebody on WC published how bad it is

  • to who the money goes at the end of the day ( Rolex in this case ) I don't care, as long as I like the watch. Do you have same standard for food, cars, clothes, mobile phone, laptop...?

  • clicking noise upon winding is normal, you hit the full spring/slipping mainspring point, same on any auto movement

  • I personaly don't have problems with T-fit clasp on my BB Pro and lenght is longer than one full link. Not sure it is the same as on 54

  • damaged link at T-fit clasp is normal, have and seen same "issues" with other simmilar solutions

  • design is quite known with Tudor by now and yes quite sterile/homagy on BB line but you knew that from day 1, that is their thing on 80% of portfolio

My overall opinion is you maybe expect too much from this watch and bother too much about marketing. And if you want something with more flair Tudor is definitely not the brand for you, maybe some models but in general you know what you get when buying Tudor🍻

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I have 4 Tudors now (and they’re all models that people seem to have divided opinions on) and I just haven’t been able to bring myself to buy a 54 or 58. A lot of your review harps on my feelings. I’m repelled by the hype but drawn by the design.

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bpavlek

I don’t agree with almost every letter you wrote and somehow find your review one of the best I’ve ever read. 🍻

Thank you (I think?)

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jopa00

I've tried it at AD and it seemed cool but it was a bit too small for me being dive watch. However I'm in love with this mod and would rock it like this:

Tudor Black Bay 54 Modded https://www.watchcrunch.com/RabbitWatchShop/posts/tudor-black-bay-54-modded-262207

The big crown is a great touch!

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Mare0104

First congrats on review, another one not with 4.5+/5.0. As it relates to your dilemma some of my observations:

  • you focus too much on marketing. Yes the marketing from Tudor is only second to Breguet ( in negative of course ) but if I like the watch I don't care about that. Honestly not even looking at campaigns they make unless somebody on WC published how bad it is

  • to who the money goes at the end of the day ( Rolex in this case ) I don't care, as long as I like the watch. Do you have same standard for food, cars, clothes, mobile phone, laptop...?

  • clicking noise upon winding is normal, you hit the full spring/slipping mainspring point, same on any auto movement

  • I personaly don't have problems with T-fit clasp on my BB Pro and lenght is longer than one full link. Not sure it is the same as on 54

  • damaged link at T-fit clasp is normal, have and seen same "issues" with other simmilar solutions

  • design is quite known with Tudor by now and yes quite sterile/homagy on BB line but you knew that from day 1, that is their thing on 80% of portfolio

My overall opinion is you maybe expect too much from this watch and bother too much about marketing. And if you want something with more flair Tudor is definitely not the brand for you, maybe some models but in general you know what you get when buying Tudor🍻

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I generally do try to tune out the marketing and brand image when making important purchases but there are times I can’t divorce the product from how it’s sold or who it’s associated with. This is especially true with brands who are the most aggressive and transparent in their marketing and since luxury products live and die on perception there are many times I’d rather go under the radar. I also am reasonably conscious of where my money goes but also aware that almost all companies do and sell things I don’t like but there are some I dig more than others and spend accordingly. It’s more emotional than self-righteous or political but It’s real.

As far as that clicking noise it’s something I’ve never experienced in all my years of owning automatic watches, certainly not so loudly that I’ve noticed it like this. If it’s normal for this movement that’s cool with me—it’s keeping perfect time—I just wanted to confirm that it’s not a sign of a defect. If your Tudor does it too that’s good to hear.

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Love your thoughts on this and appreciate how well written it is. This is one of the watches on my grail list you may have changed my mind.

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GameNWatch

Love your thoughts on this and appreciate how well written it is. This is one of the watches on my grail list you may have changed my mind.

If it’s on your grail list, don’t let me talk you out of it! In every way it’s everything they say it is (assuming you don’t have an in-between wrist size). Most of my issues with it are very personal issues of taste and what moves me to connect with a thing. You may appreciate it for all the right reasons!

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hackmartian

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I generally do try to tune out the marketing and brand image when making important purchases but there are times I can’t divorce the product from how it’s sold or who it’s associated with. This is especially true with brands who are the most aggressive and transparent in their marketing and since luxury products live and die on perception there are many times I’d rather go under the radar. I also am reasonably conscious of where my money goes but also aware that almost all companies do and sell things I don’t like but there are some I dig more than others and spend accordingly. It’s more emotional than self-righteous or political but It’s real.

As far as that clicking noise it’s something I’ve never experienced in all my years of owning automatic watches, certainly not so loudly that I’ve noticed it like this. If it’s normal for this movement that’s cool with me—it’s keeping perfect time—I just wanted to confirm that it’s not a sign of a defect. If your Tudor does it too that’s good to hear.

Yes it is ok, the noise comes from all auto movements when reached that point, some louder than others

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Mare0104

First congrats on review, another one not with 4.5+/5.0. As it relates to your dilemma some of my observations:

  • you focus too much on marketing. Yes the marketing from Tudor is only second to Breguet ( in negative of course ) but if I like the watch I don't care about that. Honestly not even looking at campaigns they make unless somebody on WC published how bad it is

  • to who the money goes at the end of the day ( Rolex in this case ) I don't care, as long as I like the watch. Do you have same standard for food, cars, clothes, mobile phone, laptop...?

  • clicking noise upon winding is normal, you hit the full spring/slipping mainspring point, same on any auto movement

  • I personaly don't have problems with T-fit clasp on my BB Pro and lenght is longer than one full link. Not sure it is the same as on 54

  • damaged link at T-fit clasp is normal, have and seen same "issues" with other simmilar solutions

  • design is quite known with Tudor by now and yes quite sterile/homagy on BB line but you knew that from day 1, that is their thing on 80% of portfolio

My overall opinion is you maybe expect too much from this watch and bother too much about marketing. And if you want something with more flair Tudor is definitely not the brand for you, maybe some models but in general you know what you get when buying Tudor🍻

Exactly. It’s vintage style tool watch. Very straight forward what it is. That shouldn’t be a surprise and shouldn’t be treated differently.

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brett2396

Exactly. It’s vintage style tool watch. Very straight forward what it is. That shouldn’t be a surprise and shouldn’t be treated differently.

True--I knew what it was when I got to the shop and for a bunch of reasons, it still resonated with me, even after careful consideration. And I still think it's an objectively great watch. The reason I held off talking about the 54 for a couple of weeks is because my feelings about it keep changing. It may just be that I'm growing fatigued by the sheer number of vintage-inspired watches in general and how many of them are inspired by the same vintages. My tastes naturally lean that way but there's so much room for more creativity and experimentation, even when mining the past for inspiration. Let's say, "less vintage, more inspired."

I'm starting to feel a pull toward new ideas on one end (not a strength of the Swiss, admittedly) and more interesting, overlooked vintage pieces on the other. My taste in music tends to be the same—I love uncovering amazing deep cuts from the past and love getting turned on to new artists pushing things forward, but I've lost patience for oldies acts still playing their greatest hits and new artists simply rehashing old styles, no matter how competently.

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hackmartian

True--I knew what it was when I got to the shop and for a bunch of reasons, it still resonated with me, even after careful consideration. And I still think it's an objectively great watch. The reason I held off talking about the 54 for a couple of weeks is because my feelings about it keep changing. It may just be that I'm growing fatigued by the sheer number of vintage-inspired watches in general and how many of them are inspired by the same vintages. My tastes naturally lean that way but there's so much room for more creativity and experimentation, even when mining the past for inspiration. Let's say, "less vintage, more inspired."

I'm starting to feel a pull toward new ideas on one end (not a strength of the Swiss, admittedly) and more interesting, overlooked vintage pieces on the other. My taste in music tends to be the same—I love uncovering amazing deep cuts from the past and love getting turned on to new artists pushing things forward, but I've lost patience for oldies acts still playing their greatest hits and new artists simply rehashing old styles, no matter how competently.

That’s totally fair! Overall I like vintage reissues and inspired watches. I’m not super crazy about most modern designs though some I love. But vintage iconic designs made with modern materials and no worries of vintage watch issues speaks to me personally.

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brett2396

That’s totally fair! Overall I like vintage reissues and inspired watches. I’m not super crazy about most modern designs though some I love. But vintage iconic designs made with modern materials and no worries of vintage watch issues speaks to me personally.

I totally get the draw of straight reissues done with modern materials or watches that have simply remained in production to evolve over the years. I sold my vintage Speedmaster because I was so sick of the endless, expensive repairs when parts wore out, fell off, or just flaked away, when I really just wanted to wear the thing and enjoy it. I'm sure I'll end up getting a modern version of it one day.

My go-to watch most days is a 62MAS reissue, though it rises above the reissue fray thanks to some bold color choices and substantial material and movement upgrades that make it much more interesting (to me) than the original or the 1:1 reissue that just came out.

Sorta related, I'm a huge fan of the Breitling Premiere and how it pulls from vintage models without being a recreation/reissue of any one of them, especially when it comes to the case detailing and pistachio dial color. It looks classic without looking clichéd. In the same vein, I think the new TAG "Glassbox" is also a brilliant example of how a design can clearly evoke vintage references while still being fresh and modern.

There are dozens of Seikos and Grand Seikos that get this right, and, generally, I think they're the only major brand that is actually innovating in terms of design and movement technology, even as they simultaneously mine their past in obvious ways. Luckily for them, their past is so full of interesting things there's a lot to play with.

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Like you alluded to, I think it’s a great very flexible watch for people that just want one watch that they can do everything in. That is why I got it for my wife. Of course, I steal it from time to Time too.